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FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions

Questions About the CCS Grandfathering Program

Questions Related to Military Experience

General Questions

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Questions About the CCS Grandfathering Program

I'm applying for certification through the Grandfathering Program. Do I also have to apply for membership and pay membership fees?

I have enough points to apply for CPCS through the Grandfathering Program. Do I also have to apply for CACS first?

I have a Security-related certification (or Security experience) that's not listed on the Grandfathering Points Form, but I'd like it to count towards the Grandfathering Certification Program. What should I do?

For some of my Security experience, my job title doesn't specifically say 'security'. Can this experience count toward CCS certitification?

In some of my previous experience I was responsible for both Physical and Technical Security. How do I count this experience?

My experience comes from several different postings or jobs. Can I just attach my resume instead of completing the Experience part of the Grandfathering Form?

I had a certification (or experience) in the past, but don't have any documentation for it. Can I still count that toward certification?

How long does the Grandfathering Certification process take?

How long will the Grandfathering program be available?

Is it possible to get certified after the deadline?



Questions Related to Military Experience

I have a certification or training that I earned while in the military, but this particular certification or training is not well-known outside the military. Can I still get credit for it for the Grandfathering Program?

In some of my military experience I was responsible for either Physical or Technical Security, but my title/posting/etc, doesn't actually say that. Can this experience count toward CCS certification?



General Questions

I have enough experience in one of the two areas of Security - Technical or Physical - but not enough in the other to certify. Can I still join the Center for Comprehensive Security? How do I certify?

In some of my previous experience I was responsible for both Physical and Technical Security. How do I count this experience?

The CPCS Certification has a Bachelors Degree requirement, but I don't have a Bachelors Degree. I do have additional experience though. How does the option to substitute two additional years of experience instead of the degree work?

Can I also substitute experience for a Bachelors Degree to qualify for the CECS Certification?

I had a certification (or experience) in the past, but don't have any documentation for it. Can I still count that toward certification?

Is Continuing Education required to maintain my CCS Certification?

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Questions About the CCS Grandfathering Program


I'm applying for certification through the Grandfathering Program. Do I also have to apply for membership and pay membership fees?


Certifying through the Grandfathering Program includes your application and membership for the remainder of the year in which you certify. You will not need to renew your membership until the end of that year (which will cover your membership for the following year). For example, if you are certified through the Grandfathering Program in 2008, you will need to renew your membership at the end of 2008 for 2009.


I have enough points to apply for CPCS through the Grandfathering Program. Do I also have to apply for CACS first?


For the Grandfathering Certification Program you don't have to apply for CACS first. Through the standard certification program, CACS certification is a pre-requisite for the CPCS certification. The Grandfathering Program, however, is points-based, and applicants with enough points can apply directly for either CACS or CPCS, or for both the CACS and CPCS certifications. Be sure to indicate either CACS or CPCS certification (or both) on your application, indicate the proper amount of points earned, and include the appropriate fees.
(Click Here to see some examples of point calculation.)


I have a Security-related certification (or Security experience) that's not listed on the Grandfathering Points Form, but I'd like it to count towards the Grandfathering Certification Program. What should I do?


It was difficult to include every possible certification or experience on the form, and there are many ways to gain security-related experience and education, so it's quite possible to have earned a certification or designation, or have gained experience that was not listed. You can enter your certification, training or experience on the Grandfathering Points Form in the blank marked 'Other', provide documentation of your accomplishment, and about the certification/experience/training itself, and the Grandfathering Committee will evaluate and assign the appropriate number of points. Or you can contact the Grandfathering Committee with the details of your certification or experience (Grandfather @ CentComSec . org), and they will advise you as to how to proceed.


For some of my Security experience, my job title doesn't specifically say 'security'. Can this experience count toward CCS certification?


If you can detail your security-related duties for that job/post in the Experience section of the application, and as long as we can verify your experience and duties, you should be able to count it towards the certification or Grandfathering requirements. If there is not enough information or if more detail is needed, the certification committee may contact you. This could delay processing of your application, so we encourage you to be as thorough as possible.


In some of my previous experience I was responsible for both Physical and Technical Security. How do I count this experience?


Experience of this type in both areas simultaneously is great, and is an example of the converged approach that the Center for Comprehensive Security focuses on. This converged-security experience can be applied toward either Technical or Physical Security experience requirements - your choice. Just circle the category you'd like this experience to apply toward in the Experience section of your application, and list the experience in either Section C (Technical) or Section D (Physical) on page two of the Grandfathering Program Application.


My experience comes from several different postings or jobs. Can I just attach my resume instead of completing the Experience part of the Grandfathering Form?


We often find that applicants have experience from several different employers. Including your resume or C.V. with your application and documentation is a help to the Grandfathering Committee when working through your application, and we appreciate your sending it in. You will still need to complete the Experience portion of the Grandfathering or certification application, however. Please do not skip that section or write in "See Resume" or similar.

Please remember that, while you are very familiar with your background, our committee is not, and we have to try to understand your entire career based only on your application. The more details and specifics you can provide will help the process, and avoid potential delays or requests for additional information.


I had a certification (or experience) in the past, but don't have any documentation for it. Can I still count that toward certification?


Unfortunately, undocumented certification or experience would not apply toward the CCS Certification program. In order to maintain the integrity of the program and the Center, and in fairness to others who have CCS certifications, we would not be able to count it without documentation.


How long does the Grandfathering Certification process take?


The Grandfathering Application process takes approximately 4-6 weeks, if the application is completed correctly and all supporting documentation is provided. Processing can be delayed for a number of reasons. For example: If the application package is incomplete and has to be returned, if additional documentation has to be requested, if the application or payment is not complete, if the Grandfathering committee has to reconstruct an applicant's points that were claimed incorrectly, or if issues are encountered during the verification process. We encourage applicants to be as thorough as possible to avoid delay.


How long will the Grandfathering Program be available?


The opportunity for Grandfathered CCS Certification will expire November 30, 2009. Application packages that are complete and postmarked by November 30 will be eligible. We encourage all professionals seeking certification through the Grandfathering Program to start their application process as soon as possible, so in case issues or questions arise, you will have enough time to address those before the program expires.


Is it possible to get certified after the deadline?


Certification is certainly possible after the deadline. Security professionals interested in CCS Certification through the Grandfathering Program should apply now. After the Grandfathering Program expires, the standard certification program, including experience minimums and passing the appropriate exam, will be required for Certification to be awarded. (Please see the Certification section of the website for details of the standard program.)

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Questions Related to Military Experience


I have a certification or training that I earned while in the military, but this particular certification or training is not well-known outside the military. Can I still get credit for it for the Grandfathering Program?


The CCS Advisory Board has members with service in several branches of the military, and should be able to evaluate your military certifications or training to award you appropriate credit. As long as the training or certification is related to either Physical or Technical Security, it should be applicable. Just include documentation of this training or certification with your Grandfathering application, and list it in Section A (Technical) or Section B (Physical) on page two of the Grandfathering Program Application. (For example, you may have achieved certification as a Firefighter while serving on board a ship in the Navy, or the Army may have trained you as a Law Enforcement officer.)

An explanation or description of the training or certification is recommended and may be included with your application as an attachment. If more detail is needed, the certification committee may contact you. This could delay processing of your application, so we encourage you to be as descriptive as possible.


In some of my military experience I was responsible for either Physical or Technical Security, but my title/posting/etc, doesn't actually say that. Can this experience count toward CCS certification?


This happens in the civilian world also. Just detail your security-related duties for that job/posting in the Experience section of the application. The CCS Advisory Board has members with service in several branches of the military, and should be able to evaluate your military experience to award you appropriate credit.

As long as we can verify your experience and duties, you should be able to count it towards the certification or Grandfathering requirements. If there is not enough information or if more detail is needed, the certification committee may contact you. This could delay processing of your application, so we encourage you to be as thorough as possible.

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General Questions


I have enough experience in one of the two areas of Security - Technical or Physical - but not enough in the other to certify. Can I still join the Center for Comprehensive Security? How do I certify?


You most certainly can still join. Members of the Center for Comprehensive Security come from all areas of security, with varying amounts of experience. People in the Security profession and those interested in Security are all welcome to join. Email our Director of Membership for more info: 'Membership @ CentComSec . org'

If you have enough experience in either Physical or Technical Security to qualify for a particular certification, but not in the other, you can certify by completing the appropriate training program and passing the exam for that level.

For example, a Security professional with two years of Physical Security experience, but less than one year of Technical Security experience, meets the higher two-year CACS experience requirement, but not the lesser one-year requirement. This person could complete the CACS training program and then pass the CACS certification exam to certify at that level.
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In some of my previous experience I was responsible for both Physical and Technical Security. How do I count this experience?


Experience of this type in both areas simultaneously is great, and is an example of the converged approach that the Center for Comprehensive Security focuses on. This converged-security experience can be applied toward either Technical or Physical Security experience requirements - your choice. Just circle the category you'd like this experience to apply toward in the Experience section of your application, and list the experience in either Section C (Technical) or Section D (Physical) on page two of the Grandfathering Program Application.


The CPCS Certification has a Bachelors Degree requirement, but I don't have a Bachelors Degree. I do have additional experience though. How does the option to substitute two additional years of experience instead of the degree work?


CPCS Certification normally requires 4 years in either Technical or Physical Security and 2 years in the other. The additional two years of experience substituted for the Bachelors Degree can be in the same security specialty or split between the two. (For example: 5 years of Technical Security experience and 3 years of Physical Security experience would meet the requirement, as would 4 years each of Physical and Technical Security experience, or 6 years of one and 2 years of the other.)


Can I also substitute experience for a Bachelors Degree to qualify for the CECS Certification?


A Bachelors Degree or higher is required to qualify for CECS. The CECS Certification doesn't have a substitution option.


I had a certification (or experience) in the past, but don't have any documentation for it. Can I still count that toward certification?


Unfortunately, undocumented certification or experience would not apply toward the CCS Certification program. In order to maintain the integrity of the program and the Center, and in fairness to others who have CCS certifications, we would not be able to count it without documentation.


Is Continuing Education required to maintain my CCS Certification?


The Center for Comprehensive Security feels that, as leaders in the Security field, we need to ensure our skills and knowledge remain current. Toward that end, Continuing Education is required to maintain CCS Certification. (Please see the Continuing Education section of the website for details.)

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